I realized that all these great philosophers and thinkers and gurus were speaking about manifesting, even if sometimes they weren't using God, it was really all falling under the same umbrella. So I went away and I started really researching everything I could in my own manifesting. So perhaps I was manifesting but in the wrong direction. And of course I had absolutely no self-worth. And what it was was that I realized that everything came down to self-worth. And I listened to this podcast and something in me just clicked. You should listen.' So I said, 'Okay, look, I'll try anything'. And she said, 'I just listened to this podcast of manifesting. I feel like things are hopeless and I can't live like this anymore'. And then after many, many bottoms, I had called a friend of mine and I said, 'Look, what do I do? I feel like my life is never going to get better. But I was too distracted with hedonism to be able to actually allow it to make me feel better.
So I always kind of felt like in part, I had this affinity to wellness, spirituality and well-being. And that was kind of one place that I could just be myself and be vulnerable and open. But the one thing that throughout that time had been my safe space was yoga.